There is proof if you want proof but it is
contained in the qur'an both its scientific miracles so i dont know if thats
acceptable proof to you. Things that couldnt have been known 1400 years ago
when the qur'an was written.
The proof that turns me to have pure yaqeen (certainty) of the existence of god, is that everything works so well in the universe, the salty water will not sustain life yet the sun causes the water to rise and purify itself and then falls back to the earth to be drunk. Everyday the sun sets and then rises, the plants grow and produce fruits douring the autumns and springs, everything is so meticulous and perfect that in order to remove the creator, you need to find way after way of putting things to chance, e.g. Ball of Energy was there by chance, then of its own accord by chance exploded into a universe that happened to have right conditions for life, then a priordial soup happened to form, and happened to evolve into humans. Im sorry but i dont buy that. Each time the schools teach me a certain phase of this chain events i keep hearing 'oh there was a 1 in 10000000000000 chance of this happening or that happening. Im sorry but i find it too unrealistic. I actually find it more realistic that we were created rather than how a ball of energy happening to be there of its own accord and exploding into a universe etc. Im sorry but thats too unrealistic for me to accept.
I studied a level physics and found most of these so-called enlightened atheists were nothing but blind followers of their scientists and lapped up everything the science teacher said without questionning anything but i didnt find the answers satisfactory but islam definitely answer my questions
Why the self correcting mechanism? Why not then any other mechanism? Well let's say we did inhabit a world that lived in the static state that you are proposing, you can't certainly be blind enough to realise that there'll be other questions that'll be raised as to "Why didn't God do this instead, or that, or this... etc.". These questions will go on and on and on, it won't end unless we demand perfection in every single aspect of the world until each of us asks to be God.
There has to be a point where you have to realise that we can go no further than accepting our realities as they are. You have to come to an understanding that there are things that we will never begin to comprehend. People, especially atheists, seem to think that we are entitled to understanding everything and that we are capable of it too, even though forgetting that we too are creatures just like the lowliest of animals who have their limits, and that we are no different and have our limits too.
If we take for example a dog who can only see in black and white, do you think that it could ever concieve or imagine a colour other than black or white? Do you reckon us humans could concieve of a colour in our minds that do not belong to the colours of the rainbow? Do you reckon for us it's possible to imagine how 1 + 1 could equal 3? Can you possibly think of an emotion that is completely brand new? If you do agree that there could be alien lifeforms out there, then you must also accept that there may be lifeforms that have such such capacities of understanding that could put us humans on the level of dogs in comparison.
We are completely limited to our realities, and we need to understand that we can go no further than what our capacities enable us, we can only ever hope to understand within our limits. It is foolish to ask so many "what ifs" because the scenarios are endless and put together with the possibility that there are elements of understanding and reasoning out there that are impossible for us to comprehend at all, we would just be dabbling in arguments that are in the end futile.
The proof that turns me to have pure yaqeen (certainty) of the existence of god, is that everything works so well in the universe, the salty water will not sustain life yet the sun causes the water to rise and purify itself and then falls back to the earth to be drunk. Everyday the sun sets and then rises, the plants grow and produce fruits douring the autumns and springs, everything is so meticulous and perfect that in order to remove the creator, you need to find way after way of putting things to chance, e.g. Ball of Energy was there by chance, then of its own accord by chance exploded into a universe that happened to have right conditions for life, then a priordial soup happened to form, and happened to evolve into humans. Im sorry but i dont buy that. Each time the schools teach me a certain phase of this chain events i keep hearing 'oh there was a 1 in 10000000000000 chance of this happening or that happening. Im sorry but i find it too unrealistic. I actually find it more realistic that we were created rather than how a ball of energy happening to be there of its own accord and exploding into a universe etc. Im sorry but thats too unrealistic for me to accept.
I studied a level physics and found most of these so-called enlightened atheists were nothing but blind followers of their scientists and lapped up everything the science teacher said without questionning anything but i didnt find the answers satisfactory but islam definitely answer my questions
The 1st law of thermodynamics states:
"The energy in a system cannot be created nor destroyed. It can only be transformed from one state into another."
Analysis
This is also called the law of conservation of energy. It simply means that the total amount of energy in the universe remains the same, thus acknowledging that man is incapable of creating energy or destroying it.
Q.1 - So if man cannot create nor destroy energy then who created it in the first place?
A.1 - Allaah; as He Says in the Qur'an (interpretation of the meaning):
"He it is Who created for you all that is on earth." [Al-Qur'an 2:29]
"All praises and thanks be to Allah, Who (Alone) created the heavens and the earth, and originated the darkness and the light; yet those who disbelieve hold others as equal with their Lord." [Al-Qur'an 6:1]
"It is He Who has created the heavens and the earth in truth, and on the Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) He will say: "Be!", - and it is! His Word is the Truth." [Al-Qur'an 6:73]
Thus the first law is an acknowlegment that man is incapable of creating anything; i.e. man cannot bring into existance that which did not exist before.
This is also an acknowledgement that man is incapable of destroying anything. In other words, man cannot turn something into nothing.
Allaah Says in the Qur'an (interpretation of the meaning):
"O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): Verily those on whom you call besides Allah, cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatches away a thing from them, they will have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought." [Al-Qur'an 22:73]
Just because science helps to explain the
diversity of life doesn't mean that it's sufficient to stop right there. That's
like looking at a wrist watch and then saying that because everything is in
perfect working order and that because it explains itself quite nicely
therefore the factory that made this wristwatch does not exist -and that is a
foolish conclusion. The origin of life as you know is what I'm talking about,
something science cannot ever hope to explain, science can only work within its
own confines and can never explain itself."The energy in a system cannot be created nor destroyed. It can only be transformed from one state into another."
Analysis
This is also called the law of conservation of energy. It simply means that the total amount of energy in the universe remains the same, thus acknowledging that man is incapable of creating energy or destroying it.
Q.1 - So if man cannot create nor destroy energy then who created it in the first place?
A.1 - Allaah; as He Says in the Qur'an (interpretation of the meaning):
"He it is Who created for you all that is on earth." [Al-Qur'an 2:29]
"All praises and thanks be to Allah, Who (Alone) created the heavens and the earth, and originated the darkness and the light; yet those who disbelieve hold others as equal with their Lord." [Al-Qur'an 6:1]
"It is He Who has created the heavens and the earth in truth, and on the Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) He will say: "Be!", - and it is! His Word is the Truth." [Al-Qur'an 6:73]
Thus the first law is an acknowlegment that man is incapable of creating anything; i.e. man cannot bring into existance that which did not exist before.
This is also an acknowledgement that man is incapable of destroying anything. In other words, man cannot turn something into nothing.
Allaah Says in the Qur'an (interpretation of the meaning):
"O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): Verily those on whom you call besides Allah, cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatches away a thing from them, they will have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought." [Al-Qur'an 22:73]
Why the self correcting mechanism? Why not then any other mechanism? Well let's say we did inhabit a world that lived in the static state that you are proposing, you can't certainly be blind enough to realise that there'll be other questions that'll be raised as to "Why didn't God do this instead, or that, or this... etc.". These questions will go on and on and on, it won't end unless we demand perfection in every single aspect of the world until each of us asks to be God.
There has to be a point where you have to realise that we can go no further than accepting our realities as they are. You have to come to an understanding that there are things that we will never begin to comprehend. People, especially atheists, seem to think that we are entitled to understanding everything and that we are capable of it too, even though forgetting that we too are creatures just like the lowliest of animals who have their limits, and that we are no different and have our limits too.
If we take for example a dog who can only see in black and white, do you think that it could ever concieve or imagine a colour other than black or white? Do you reckon us humans could concieve of a colour in our minds that do not belong to the colours of the rainbow? Do you reckon for us it's possible to imagine how 1 + 1 could equal 3? Can you possibly think of an emotion that is completely brand new? If you do agree that there could be alien lifeforms out there, then you must also accept that there may be lifeforms that have such such capacities of understanding that could put us humans on the level of dogs in comparison.
We are completely limited to our realities, and we need to understand that we can go no further than what our capacities enable us, we can only ever hope to understand within our limits. It is foolish to ask so many "what ifs" because the scenarios are endless and put together with the possibility that there are elements of understanding and reasoning out there that are impossible for us to comprehend at all, we would just be dabbling in arguments that are in the end futile.
No it isn't, you're looking at it too
simplistically. The fact that we can only inhabit this earth and
nowehere else is something to behold in and of itself. We wake up everyday to
millions and trillions of scientific processes that are happening continually
without ceasing at every second and moment of our lives and it continues even
as we speak. Is it not amazing how we are perfectly fine tuned to this system
and cannot survive anywhere else? The reason why I call your reasoning too
simplistic is, for example let's say that we are capable of inhabiting anywhere
just as well as we do here on earth - don't you think that an aspect of this
appreciation would be lost? Haven't you considered how we might lose the
appreciation of the planets and their diversities? Don't you consider such feelings
in the realms of truth aswell?
You're only limiting your understanding of the world in pure cold numbers and processes, and that is completely ignorant. You forget that things such as 'colour' and 'love' and 'hate' are not scientifically observable, we may see it's processes and how we can come to view red, blue, or green, or how we get angry but these are experiences that are limited to this "I". Science cannot explain this experience but only ever it's processes but never the actual result.
Start encompassing literally everything about life and the world and you'll get a truer understanding, instead of just looking at the world purely as a system of cold hard processes.
As I said, you're view of the world is too
simplistic. How do you know that God did not mean for them to become extinct?
How do you know they did not become extinct for us to learn lessons from them
becoming extinct? And we have, haven't we? You're ignoring too many
aspects of understanding. You're ignoring the value of "wonder", and
"amazement" that people have when they find such things that have
become extinct. For Muslims it should also be a reminder that everything comes
to an end and that it's a fate that isn't just exclusive to these creatures,
for us to contemplate the end of our lives and improve ourselves before it
happens. These kinds of values for some reason are worthless and not worthy of
mention for atheistic people, when in fact they exist and carry meaning, much
more so than mere scientific processes.You're only limiting your understanding of the world in pure cold numbers and processes, and that is completely ignorant. You forget that things such as 'colour' and 'love' and 'hate' are not scientifically observable, we may see it's processes and how we can come to view red, blue, or green, or how we get angry but these are experiences that are limited to this "I". Science cannot explain this experience but only ever it's processes but never the actual result.
Start encompassing literally everything about life and the world and you'll get a truer understanding, instead of just looking at the world purely as a system of cold hard processes.
Again you're showing us the limited,
flawed and egotistical understanding that atheists have of the world. Why
should the Qur'an detail to us every single bit of detail that exists in the
universe? The Qur'an only tells us what is necessary. Allah
in
the Qur'an has already told us that countless times that there are things that
are unknown to us. Yes it may be possible that there are other lifeforms out
there, and yes there may even be messengers and prophets sent to them. It
doesn't say anywhere that Muhammad
is
the last and final messenger for all creatures ever, that's a flawed
comprehension of the use of language.
Clearest Rational Argument for the Existence of a
Creator :
The following six step argument has
been formulated with the modern agnostic and atheist in mind. Each premise is
accompanied with an explanation of the exact ‘manner of deduction’, so the
reader may appreciate exactly what is being done.
The argument seeks to establish an
Entity attributed with necessary existence (ithbat al-wajib) and
attributes of perfection such as life, will, power and knowledge, and also free
of all flaws, including resemblance to the creation in any way which would
allow one to pose the question, “Who created him?” This will all be done based
only on universally accepted absurdities (musta’hilat). Certain areas where
attempts have been made to undermine the proof have been given extra attention.
Most major objections have been dealt with in the main body of the article.
Assumptions and Summary
Due to the lengthy nature of the
article, we will first list the hinges upon which the argument depends, and
then a brief outline of the premises. This will be followed by detailed
commentary on all of the stages of the proof, including preempting all major
rebuttals. The issue is a serious one, and we ask our reader to please bear
with us. The argument presupposes two matters that we believe are beyond
debate. We will thus not engage in attempting to ‘prove’ these two issues.
Instead, we would rather not discuss with anyone doubtful in these two issues.
They are very obvious:
1. Firstly, the real
existence of beings, attributes and events we observe in the world. Our direct
observation of them is sufficient in acquiring knowledge of their real
existence.
2. Secondly, the principle of non-contradiction. It is not
possible for two directly opposing propositions to both be true, and likewise
for both to be false. Necessarily, one will be true and the other will be
false. Similarly if a proposition leads to contradiction – and we are able to
demonstrate this – its opposite will need to be accepted as true on this basis
alone. It is not warranted for someone to claim we have not proven our point,
if we were successful in demonstrating contradiction within its opposite. Yes.
If an opponent wants to contest our disjunction, claiming a third option is
possible, they are free to do so. Throughout the article, we will preempt all
such occasions. Naturally, the article will get lengthy at such places. For
this reason we offer a brief summary before beginning. Below are the six stages
of the argument listed in a summarised fashion:
Premise 1: [I lift my hand in real
life, point to it and say,] This particular movement of my hand is something
which began to exist.
Premise 2: Whatever begins to exist
must have a cause.
Premise 3: Therefore, this
particular movement of my hand must have a cause.
Premise 4: This cause will either be
A: contingently existent [along with what that entails], or B: necessarily
existent [along with what that entails]. There is no third possibility.
Premise 5: This cause is not a
contingently existing cause.
Conclusion: Therefore, by rational
necessity, it must have been a necessarily existent Being who created the
movement of my hand [along with all of what this entails].
Just by viewing the summary above,
one can gather the following:
* This is not your conventional
cosmological argument that sets out to establish a finite beginning in time for
the universe and argues for a “primary mover” or “first cause”. We ask our
reader to please put aside preconceived notions of what they might think the
argument is attempting and instead pay particular attention to the commentary
which is to follow.
* From the premises above, one can
clearly see that this argument is attempting to prove both the existence of a
Creator and also occasionalism, all in
one go.
* In establishing premise 5, the
argument will invoke the absurdity of “infinite regress”, as we believe no
sound argument for the existence of a Creator can be formulated without
tackling this important angle. Again, we ask that the reader not jump to
conclusions prior to reading our explanation.
After this brief introduction, let’s
now begin with the commentary:
Premise 1: [I lift my hand in real
life, point to it and say,] This particular movement of my hand is something which
began to exist.
The purpose of the first premise is
to prepare a subject and place it in a class based on a consideration relevant
to our argument. Here the subject is a particular movement of my hand. Is this
act something or is it nothing? Obviously, it is something. What do we call it?
Let’s agree on a term. Given that prior to my initiating this movement, my hand
was in my lap. When I lifted it, the particular movement which was not there
earlier, only now began to exist. Based on this obvious reality, we suggest
that the predicate for the first premise should be ‘something which began to
exist’. We will ask our opponent, whether this is an accurate categorization or
not. In the first premise we are not ‘proving’ anything. We rely on one-time
direct observation in validating this first premise. It does not involve any
experiment, induction or deduction.
‘Beginning to exist’ is a simple
meaning which is clear. What it contains is the simple notion of a previously
non-existent act entering into the realm of extra-mental existence, something
for which it was always possible to exist in the mind’s eye. When something of
this nature actually does exist, this is what we mean by ‘beginning to exist’.
What else do we intend by this phrase? Do we have any elaborate notions
regarding this phrase? We say, this is an irrelevant question. Please put aside
what we believe, and focus on the reality of the hand being stationary,
followed by the particular movement I later drew attention to. What problem can
there then be, if we choose to call it exactly what it is?
If one needs to contrast the phrase
with something which “did not begin to exist”, then this is very easy. Any
imaginary movement can be used to illustrate the opposite of ‘beginning to
exist’. We obviously believe in more than this which will be the ultimate
conclusion of the entire argument. The point is that our first premise does not
in any way depend on this conclusion. In order to accept the idea of
‘beginning to exist’ one is not required to acknowledge at the very outset an
extra-mentally existing Entity which never began to exist, i.e. an Entity which
is eternally existent. This is not the only opposite to our phrase ’something
which began to exist’. The more obvious and universally agreed-upon opposite
are those possible acts which have yet to begin. Any yet to exist possible act
will suffice. We can now move to the second premise.
Premise 2: Whatever begins to exist
must have a cause.
In this second premise we have taken
the predicate of the previous premise (something which began to exist) and have
made a universal judgment upon it. If we are successful in demonstrating the
truth of this universal judgment, then by rational necessity whatever we say
here regarding ‘things which begin to exist’ as a class will need to
extend to the subject of our first proposition, i.e. the movement of my hand.
This is a self-evidently valid form of deduction. We call it the Great Rule of
Equivalence. It involves two premises; a minor one which simply prepares a
subject and makes it belong to a class, and a major premise which takes the
class and makes a universal judgment on it. The purpose is to extend the
judgment on the class to the particular contained within the minor premise.
How then do we demonstrate the truth
of the proposition ‘Everything which begins to exist must have a cause’? Is it
by accepting this to be a self-evident axiom not in need of being proven, or is
it done by surveying the particulars of the principle, i.e. by way of
induction, or by way of some other method? We say, it is indeed a self-evident
truth. It is one of those things which are ingrained in our very nature. This
knowledge is not ‘acquired’ through experience. Instead it is used in arguments
to prove other less self-evidently true claims. Had it been inductive, an old
person 70 years of age would be more convinced of its veracity [because of
having many more opportunities to have tested the principle] than say a child
of 8 or 9 years. This however is definitely not the case. Children and old
people share exactly the same degree of conviction regarding this principle.
Furthermore, we draw attention to the fact that knowledge of real
extra-mental things in the world is something we do not doubt. This knowledge
however is based entirely on the causality principle. If you were to enter a
room with your eyes closed, you would not know what is in the room. When you
open your eyes, only then, knowledge of what is in the room will be gained for
you. We say, if you do not have doubt regarding knowledge of the real existence
of the things in the room, you should also not doubt the principle which was
the basis for this knowledge. This is what we mean when we say that this
principle is self-evidently true. Another example of something which is self-evidently
true is the impossibility of contradiction.
As far as the truth of our second
premise is concerned, many will be satisfied with what was mentioned in the
previous paragraph. Some will naturally need more. Not a problem. We have a
second method for demonstrating the truth of the proposition. This second
method is nothing more than taking one first principle (the causality
principle) and explaining it in light of another more clear first principle,
namely the impossibility of contradiction. The questions to our opponent at
this time would be: Do you accept that contradictions are impossible? Do you
accept that every thesis has an antithesis? Do you accept that if one of two
direct opposites is false on account of involving contradiction, then by rational
necessity the other must be true? If these three obvious points are conceded,
we may proceed:
The direct opposite of ‘Everything
which begins to exist must have a cause’ is ‘Not everything which begins to
exist must have a cause’, which is in the power of ‘Some things which begin to
exist do not have a cause’. Anything which begins to exist by definition can
not be necessarily existent [whether such a category actually exists or not is
not the point currently. Our opponent is free to believe that it is purely
hypothetical]. Otherwise it would have been existent since eternity past, since
necessarily existent means its very nature requires for it to exist in
which case it cannot have a beginning for its existence. Similarly, it can not
be impossible because impossible things do not happen in which case it would
not have begun to exist. Since such a thing can neither be necessary, nor
impossible, it must be merely possible (another word for which is contingent).
Therefore, with respect to the very nature of such a thing, both existence and
non-existence are equal. That it is to say, there is nothing in its very nature
which requires existence (since it is not necessary), nor is there
anything in its very nature which requires non-existence (since it is
also not impossible). Thus the two are indeed equal.
Whenever any contingent being [or
attribute, act, event] leaves the realm of non-existence and becomes existent
[such as the movement of my hand, subsequent to it being stationary in my lap]
, it will necessarily need to be on account of some external cause preferring
its existence over its non-existence. Otherwise, this is impossible on account
of involving preponderance without a preferrer.This is a contradiction because
it leads to non-equality in existence and non-existence of that wherein
equality of the two was assumed [in the previous paragraph]. The thing we’re
talking about like the hand-movement was not necessary, nor was it impossible.
Its existence and non-existence were both equal, i.e. not required by its
very nature.. so now, if it comes to be without a cause, then this means
that existence [in relation to its very nature] is preponderant over
non-existence, and just a minute ago we agreed that the two were equal. So how
can something be such that both its existence and non-existence are equal and
at the same time be such that its existence is preponderant above its
non-existence? Since contradictions are impossible, our antithesis ‘Some things
which begin to exist do not have a cause’ is definitely false. Since both a
thesis and its antithesis can not be false, our original proposition
‘Everything which begins to exist must have a cause’ is necessarily true.
The conclusion of the argument until
this point is:
Premise 3: Therefore, the movement
of my hand must have a cause.
The above concludes the first leg of
our argument. We will now take the conclusion arrived at from the above, namely
‘a cause’ and make it the subject of a new argument using another mode of
argument called the Rule of Opposition. But before this, let us remind that in
all of the above steps what we did not do is mention the word God. Not even
once. Even the term ‘necessarily existent’ only occurred once, and that too in
a hypothetical context. The phrase ‘eternally existent’ similarly occurred once
in order to illustrate that the first premise did not rely on our
adversary’s acceptance of eternal existence. This is an important point, namely
that the above steps were clearly traversed without any reliance on our
ultimate conclusion or anything entailed thereby. Therefore, it is accurate
when we say, we did not expect our adversary to entertain any notion which he
does not already believe to be true.
Having arrived at the conclusion in
step 3, we are now ready to introduce the Rule of Opposition. This is another
intuitively deductive mode of argument the veracity of which no reasonable
human being can doubt.
In the previous argument we
established with zero probability of the opposite alternative that the movement
of my hand definitely has a cause. Now, we will restrict this conclusion of the
previous argument within two exhaustive possibilities. One of them will be
based on what our adversary understands from causality and existence. We will
tailor for him a very specific analogy in order to demonstrate that the cause
for the hand-movement cannot have been what he understands from both causality
and existence. This will be because his side of the disjunction involves
glaring absurdities which are universally accepted: “…when you have eliminated
the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”. This
is universally agreed upon. This is the Rule of Opposition.
Premise 4: This cause will either be
A: contingently existent [along with what that entails], or B: necessarily
existent [along with what that entails]. There is no 3rd possibility.
This has been thoroughly explained
in the previous section. The B side of the disjunction is our true claim. It is
yet to be proven. Do not worry. We will do that towards the end of the
argument. Placing it right there in the premise for the world to see is totally
valid, since we are now dealing with a disjunction. It will be our task to
illustrate how side A involves glaring absurdities, and how these absurdities
can not be removed in any way except by accepting what we will place on the B
side of the disjunction. This is what the Rule of Opposition is supposed to do
after all.
Premise 5: This cause is not a
contingently existing cause.
To claim that the cause which
resulted in the movement of my hand was of the very same nature as the movement
itself, namely something which itself began to exist, is not possible, because
positing this necessitates that the movement of my hand remain in the realm of
non-existence, whereas in premise 1 we confirmed that the hand did move.
If one assigns properties to
causality and existence such as being confined within spacetime [and other such
attributes entailed by contingency], then they are essentially claiming that an
infinite series of cause/effect relationships must have been concluded before
the movement of my hand could ever have had a chance to begin to exist. This
however is impossible because infinity can not end. That would be a
contradiction in terms. If it ends, it can never be infinite. If it is
infinite, it can never end. You would need an infinite amount of time to
conclude an infinite amount of beginnings and endings. This is like a car, if
it needs to move from A to B, and the condition for its reaching its
destination happens to be the concluding of its wheels rotating an infinite
amount of times — in such a scenario for it to reach its destination is clearly
impossible, since you would need an infinite amount of time to conclude
an infinite amount of rotations. Anything dependent on this can never have a
chance to occur.
At this point, our opponent will say
something along the lines of the following: “Fair enough. We do not entertain
an infinite regress. We have our reasons for this. According to us, we begin a
journey from the present moment and keep going back in the past until we hit a
certain event which occurred approximately 13.7 billion years ago. We maintain
that all matter, energy, space, time and everything else came into being at
this point in time. Prior to this there was no spacetime. Existence and
causality can not occur independent of spacetime. Therefore, the journey stops
at this event. If you want to continue the journey beyond this point, you
must bring proof”.
We will reply thus: Your stopping of
the journey itself at any finite time in the past [based on whatever
consideration] does nothing to remove the absurdity we are highlighting.
If we had a line of soldiers
consisting of only 20. This line stops on 20. There is no 21st. Every soldier
in the line has a gun and is capable of shooting, but there is one condition
that needs to be fulfilled before any soldier in the line can ever have a
chance to shoot. That condition is for the soldier before him to shoot. Keep in
mind that the line stops at 20. Will a shot ever be fired? The answer is no,
because the one closest to us will not be firing, on account of the one before
him not firing, on account of the one before him not firing and so on.
The final soldier does not have a soldier before him and yet his condition for
firing is also unfulfilled. Hence, no shot will be fired and we are left with
complete silence. Let’s now double the line. Will anything change? Obviously,
no. Again, complete silence. Make it a billion soldiers? 13.7 billion years
worth of soldiers? Same result. Same complete silence. So you see, making it
infinite or entertaining an ‘abrupt cut-off’, either way, the result is exactly
the same. The entire series remains restricted to ones imagination. The need
attached to each and every unit remains unfulfilled, including the need
attached to the very first unit in the series.
In utter desperation, he or she will
now ask, “OK, you tell us, what happened? You will inadvertently say, ‘there
was an Entity in the background all along (God) who pulled the trigger for the
first soldier’. Where did this Entity come from? He was never part of the
equation. This is absurd. If you can entertain this absurdity, I can claim that
the very first unit in the series occurred causelessly. What’s the difference?”
We will respectfully remind them at
this point that we are still discussing their side of the disjunction. There
are no soldiers for us, as will become clear very shortly. Be patient. This
whole analogy was carefully tailored to reflect only our adversary’s notions of
existence and causality, namely that both causality and existence cannot occur
independent of spacetime. This is why there is no such Entity as part of the
equation. We are not being gratuitous. Not at all.
At this point, we particularly ask
our reader to please focus on what is about to be said. In the upcoming
paragraphs we will address some major rebuttals which have been presented
throughout the ages. This will get intense, and it is possible that some might
need to reread what we will mention a couple of times in order to get a clear
picture.
What just happened in these last two
paragraphs is very significant: The atheist thought we were getting
ready to establish a “first cause” (after all, this is what the majority of
arguments out there do), thinking we too must reply to the soldiers’ analogy.
He found positing an entity outside spacetime to be absurd because according to
him there is no existence, nor causality outside spacetime. He
misunderstood and believed the soldiers were there to represent entities and
attributes which exist in the world. Since we also believe in the existence of
such entities and attributes, we also must offer a solution. He then assumed
our solution was to invoke a first cause. Based on this, he attempted to put
words in our mouth: “there was an Entity in the background..” We, instead, took
this very objection of the atheist and made it a component of our proof, which
we will later make use of in order to establish “occasionalism” which is our
true belief.
The soldiers are not there to
represent entities and attributes which began to exist. Therefore, not everyone
who accepts the existence of these entities and attributes will be
confronted with this ‘riddle’. Rather they are there to represent existing
entities and attributes only in their capacity as causes leading to the
movement of my hand. This is the understanding of our adversary. The
analogy was tailored specifically for him. We do not adopt this position.
Therefore the soldiers do not apply to us.
We claim there is absolutely no
solution to this problem according to the principles held to be true according
to the adversary, namely that causality and existence cannot occur independent
of spacetime.As for the question of whether positing a first cause is a viable
position, in and of itself, and if an agnostic chooses to forgo their
principles (of spacetime dependency) and entertains “transcendence” solely in
order to terminate the infinite regress, while of course claiming that the
Entity is simply transcendent and beyond spacetime (in order to differentiate
him from the rest of the soldiers), though life-less and unconscious… will such
a positing undermine our fifth premise which states that the cause for the
hand-movement is not a contingent cause? In other words, what problem is there
in having an Entity set the series of contingent causes into motion at a
particular point in time (for ease of reference, let’s choose the Big Bang
singularity), and then have the contingent causes bring about their effects,
one after the other, eventually leading to the movement of my hand? Moreover,
why does this Entity need to be alive, or posses any consciousness? Perhaps he
triggered the chain reaction inadvertently?
This is an important question. We
will address this below:
We contest the notion that mere
transcendence (being outside spacetime) is sufficient in terminating the
infinite regress. Rather what is required is “necessary existence”. This was
intended to be explained at stage 6, but we see no option but to exhaust the
issue right here at premise 5. We thus begin:
The very first event in the series
of contingent causes occurred, configured with a specific configuration of
certain attributes, such as location, precise moment of existence, intensity,
duration, etc. Take the time aspect for instance: The event occurred at a
particular point in time which has been traced back to approximately 13.7
billion years ago. We argue that in the mind’s eye it was conceivable for this
to have occurred before or after its actual time by an almost infinite amount
of moments in either direction. All such moments were equal. There was nothing
in the very nature of the event which required for it to come to be at its
specific moment (otherwise, we would not have been able to even conceive other
possible moments), nor was there anything within its very nature requiring for
it to not exist at this moment (because impossible things do not happen). All
moments were thus equal in relation to its very nature. Now, when it did occur
at its specific moment, this must have been on account of an attribute within
the Being that caused it which specified one of an almost infinite amount of
moments above all others. We will call this attribute “will”, constitutive of
which is “life”. Claiming that the Entity caused the chain reaction of
contingent causes without being alive, or without possessing will, is absurd,
because it entails a contradiction of non-equality within the total possible
moments, all of which were deemed equal. Thus there must have been will,
constitutive of which is life. So the attribute by which the actual coming into
existence of the first event occurred is “power”, and the attribute by which
the attributes of that event (location, moment of existence, intensity,
duration, etc.) were specified is “will”. Moreover, an Entity capable of
creating based on specification can not create what He does not “know”. We thus
have the four attributes of life, power, will and knowledge. These are all
necessary. Without them, the infinite regress cannot be terminated.
By the admission of the agnostic,
transcendence was a requirement for terminating the regress. In addition to
that, we have shown in the previous paragraph that the Entity must also have
been alive, willing and knowing. Otherwise, He could not have caused the first
event in order to trigger the chain reaction. We further argue, that the power,
will, and knowledge of this Entity cannot have been restricted only to the
first event, but rather, by rational necessity, these attributes must also be
“perfect”. By perfection, we mean they must extend to all the subsequent
contingent events in the chain leading up to the movement of my hand.
Otherwise, positing that the four attributes are restricted to only the first
event would disqualify this Entity from its role in terminating the regress,
because He would then need another Entity in order to specify the application
of His attributes to the first event and prevent them from applying to all
others, in which case He would not be the Entity we were seeking. He would just
be another contingent being posited outside spacetime. The regress would thus
continue without being terminated. He wouldn’t be able to end the regress,
rather he would just contribute to extending it.
Since for the very termination of
the regress it is absolutely necessary for the Entity to have not only brought
the first event into existence, but also all other subsequent events, it now
becomes clear that it is absurd to posit a first cause outside spacetime which
brought about the first event but remained disassociated from all others. Our
premise that the cause for this hand-movement was not a contingent cause thus
holds true.
From the above, it is quite clear
that the movement of my hand can absolutely not have been caused by something
which is of the same nature as the movement itself, namely contingent.This is
because, for the cause to be contingent results in an infinite series of causes
going back in the past which can never be traversed and concluded. Since the
series can never be concluded, the movement of my hand can never have had a
chance to exist, whereas we confirmed that the hand did move. Both the movement
of my hand (Premise 1) and the non-existence of this movement (entailed by the
contradictory of Premise 5) at the same time is a contradiction. Therefore,
side A of the disjunction is clearly impossible.
Conclusion: Therefore, by rational
necessity, it must have been a necessarily existent Being who created the
movement of my hand [along with all of what this entails].
This brings us to the conclusion of
our argument. There is not much left for us to do at this point. Everything has
already been explained in sufficient detail. Having disproved the false side of
the disjunction, naturally, the only way my hand could have moved, since that
could not have happened causelessly (Premise 2), and it also could not have
happened based on a contingent cause (Premise 5) — the true reason my hand
moved must have been by the creation of a necessarily existent Being, free of
all of the properties which led to the glaring absurdities discussed above.
This must be so. This Entity can not have a beginning for its existence.
Otherwise He too would need a cause [or Creator], thus bringing us back to the
soldiers. Moreover, He does not need a Creator, because He is not attributed
with events or any of the spacetime dependent attributes that things in the
universe are attributed with. All of his Divine attributes are perfect and do
not require specification. His knowledge, will and power apply to all possible
things. In short, He is exalted and pure from all of the possible reasons why
someone can ask the question, “Who created him?”
This not having a beginning coupled
with positing the non-existence of the Entity leading to absurdity is exactly
what we mean by necessary existence. Nothing else. At this stage of the
argument it is not a claim. It is not something we are respectfully asking our
agnostic to entertain. No. It is the very conclusion proven through a
compelling argument, with zero probability of the opposite alternative. The
whole point behind this is my hand did move. There is no doubt about
that. Making the movement dependent on any of the things discussed until now
leads to its non-occurrence, which contradicts its beginning to exist.
Therefore, we will have to entertain whatever it takes to remove the
absurdities. There is no other way.
Part of this ‘whatever it takes to
remove the absurdities’ is will, power and knowledge, constitutive of which is
life. Will, power and knowledge can not occur without life. Along with the
essence of this necessarily existent being [which we cannot comprehend due to
our limited intellects], we argue that there is something there on the B side
of the disjunction which is specifying the time, place, quality, quantity, etc.
of all the bodies, attributes and events occurring in the universe. We will
call this ‘something’ will. So that by which the specification of the
contingent beings occurs is will, and that by which they are brought into
existence is power. Furthermore, a necessarily existent Being who creates based
on specification, can not create what he does not know.
Finally, He must be one. Because if
there were multiple such necessarily existent beings then the removal of the
absurdities discussed above could have alternatively been attributed to either
of the two, thus resulting in the other being dismissible. This contradicts the
necessary existence of that other, whereas we assumed them both to be
necessarily existent. This is a contradiction, and what led to it must be
impossible, namely the positing of multiple necessarily existent beings.
Therefore, He must by rational necessity be one.
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